Server SIG Weekly Meeting Minutes (2015-04-07)



#fedora-meeting-1: Server SIG Weekly Meeting (2015-04-07)

Meeting started by sgallagh at 15:00:54 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. roll call (sgallagh, 15:00:54)
  2. Agenda (sgallagh, 15:04:41)
    1. Agenda Item: F22 Beta Testing (sgallagh, 15:04:46)
    2. Agenda Item: F22 Talking Points (sgallagh, 15:04:46)
    3. Agenda Item: NTP (sgallagh, 15:04:46)

  3. F22 Beta Testing (sgallagh, 15:06:12)
    1. Help needed to convert Database Server Role requirements into a test plan (sgallagh, 15:09:54)
    2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_test_case_creation (sgallagh, 15:11:00)
    3. ACTION: sgallagh to write up a Database Role test plan today (sgallagh, 15:16:49)
    4. Agenda Item: F22 Talking Points (sgallagh, 15:18:25)
    5. Talking Point: Database Server Role (sgallagh, 15:19:38)
    6. Talking Point: Default to XFS filesystem (sgallagh, 15:19:54)
    7. Talking Point: From Fedora 22 onwards, Cockpit will be compatible between OS releases (sgallagh, 15:21:51)
    8. Talking Point: Fedora Server supports Docker containers on the armv7hl architecture (sgallagh, 15:25:52)
    9. Talking Point: DNF as the default package manager (sgallagh, 15:28:06)
    10. Talking Point: Ipsilon – new multiple-protocol identity provider service (sgallagh, 15:28:57)

  4. NTP (sgallagh, 15:32:31)
    1. We’ll stick with chrony by default in F22, with the Server Role replacing it with NTP if deployed. (sgallagh, 15:44:30)
    2. Plans for F23 include doing an analysis of the relative benefits of chrony, ntp and timesyncd and switching everything to the one that makes the most sense. (sgallagh, 15:45:06)

  5. Open Floor (sgallagh, 15:46:51)

Meeting ended at 15:49:30 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. sgallagh to write up a Database Role test plan today

Action items, by person

  1. sgallagh
    1. sgallagh to write up a Database Role test plan today

People present (lines said)

  1. sgallagh (83)
  2. adamw (24)
  3. simo (17)
  4. nirik (16)
  5. mitr (9)
  6. zodbot (8)
  7. junland (3)
  8. stefw (3)
  9. jsmith (1)
  10. mizmo (1)
  11. danofsatx (0)
  12. tuanta (0)

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Server SIG Weekly Meeting Minutes (2015-03-31)



#fedora-meeting-1: Server SIG Weekly Meeting (2015-03-31)

Meeting started by sgallagh at 15:01:31 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. roll call (sgallagh, 15:01:32)
  2. Agenda (sgallagh, 15:07:02)
    1. Agenda Item: F22 Beta Freeze (sgallagh, 15:07:02)
    2. Agenda Item: Rolekit Testing (sgallagh, 15:07:02)

  3. F22 Beta Freeze (sgallagh, 15:08:05)
    1. TC6 is lacking content from the last stable updates push (sgallagh, 15:14:40)
    2. TC6 does not include the pwpolicy changes yet (sgallagh, 15:14:53)
    3. The addition of dnf-yum was broken on TC6 (sgallagh, 15:15:16)

  4. Rolekit Testing (sgallagh, 15:18:23)
    1. Testing help needed on rolekit, test plan at https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/server/2015-March/001795.html (sgallagh, 15:21:39)
    2. rolekit test examples at https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/server/2015-March/001797.html (sgallagh, 15:22:08)

  5. Open Floor (sgallagh, 15:24:52)
  6. getfedora.org updates (sgallagh, 15:29:15)
    1. highlight DB role (mizmo, 15:29:49)
    2. update cockpit screenshots (mizmo, 15:29:56)
    3. consider rolekit visualization (mizmo, 15:32:25)
    4. solicit new quotes for server page (mizmo, 15:33:23)
    5. quote: andreasn from the Cockpit team to quote on the Domain Controller role, since he had an excellent experience with it (mizmo, 15:35:28)

  7. Open Floor (take two) (sgallagh, 15:39:44)

Meeting ended at 15:43:28 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. (none)

People present (lines said)

  1. sgallagh (63)
  2. junland (23)
  3. mizmo (19)
  4. zodbot (8)
  5. nirik (4)
  6. simo (4)
  7. Corey84 (1)
  8. adamw (0)
  9. mitr (0)
  10. stefw (0)
  11. danofsatx (0)
  12. tuanta (0)

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Server SIG Weekly Meeting Minutes (2015-04-24)



#fedora-meeting-1: Server SIG Weekly Meeting (2015-03-24)

Meeting started by sgallagh at 15:00:30 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. roll call (sgallagh, 15:00:31)
  2. Agenda (sgallagh, 15:03:18)
    1. Agenda Item: Anaconda Password Policy (sgallagh, 15:03:30)

  3. Anaconda Password Policy (sgallagh, 15:05:48)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1191842#c14 (sgallagh, 15:06:06)
    2. ACTION: adamw to email other products to try to unify the pwpolicy change (sgallagh, 15:16:17)
    3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kevin/Draft_Passwordpolicy (nirik, 15:21:36)
    4. http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/bunfight (adamw, 15:38:09)
    5. AGREED: The password policy will be “–nostrict –minlen=6 –minquality=50 –nochanges –emptyok” for root, user and luks (sgallagh, 15:39:12)
    6. ACTION: sgallagh to update fedora-productimg-server with the agreed defaults. (sgallagh, 15:42:08)

  4. Open Floor (sgallagh, 15:42:57)
    1. http://reviewboard-fedoraserver.rhcloud.com/dashboard/ (sgallagh, 15:44:40)
    2. Help needed in reviewing rolekit database server patches (sgallagh, 15:44:53)
    3. ACTION: adamw and danofsatx to review the database server patches at their convenience (sgallagh, 15:47:27)

Meeting ended at 15:49:32 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. adamw to email other products to try to unify the pwpolicy change
  2. sgallagh to update fedora-productimg-server with the agreed defaults.
  3. adamw and danofsatx to review the database server patches at their convenience

Action items, by person

  1. adamw
    1. adamw to email other products to try to unify the pwpolicy change
    2. adamw and danofsatx to review the database server patches at their convenience
  2. danofsatx
    1. adamw and danofsatx to review the database server patches at their convenience
  3. sgallagh
    1. sgallagh to update fedora-productimg-server with the agreed defaults.

People present (lines said)

  1. sgallagh (99)
  2. mizmo (47)
  3. adamw (45)
  4. simo (38)
  5. nirik (37)
  6. danofsatx (14)
  7. zodbot (10)
  8. stefw (7)
  9. junland (3)
  10. masta (1)
  11. mitr (0)
  12. tuanta (0)

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Fedora Server SIG Weekly Meeting Minutes (2015-03-10)



#fedora-meeting-1: Server SIG Weekly Meeting (2015-03-10)

Meeting started by sgallagh at 15:00:39 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. roll call (sgallagh, 15:00:39)
    1. Alpha is released. Hurray! (sgallagh, 15:01:17)

  2. Agenda (sgallagh, 15:05:46)
    1. Agenda Item: Fedora 22 Beta Planning (sgallagh, 15:05:55)
    2. Agenda Item: GSoC Involvement (sgallagh, 15:06:06)
    3. Agenda Item: DB Role Criteria and Test Cases (sgallagh, 15:07:34)

  3. Fedora 22 Beta Planning (sgallagh, 15:07:41)
    1. Rolekit Database Role needs to support decommissioning. (sgallagh, 15:10:38)
    2. Non-blocking: Rolekit Database Role support for multiple DB instances. (sgallagh, 15:20:55)
    3. Cockpit will have branding reintroduced to the Fedora builds in time for Beta Freeze (sgallagh, 15:21:48)
    4. Cockpit is aiming upstream to achieve API stability as of Fedora 22 Beta (and further releases) (sgallagh, 15:22:18)
    5. Cockpit will make PCP support optional before F22 Beta, because it’s not finished. (sgallagh, 15:23:16)
    6. Please run through the Beta release criteria for Fedora Server 22 by next week’s meeting (2015-03-17) (sgallagh, 15:30:50)
    7. use the Alpha Server netinst image, or grab a nightly. to find nightlies: fedfind images –release 22 –date YYYYMMDD –type boot (sgallagh, 15:31:59)

  4. DB Role Criteria and Test Cases (sgallagh, 15:35:06)
    1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dmossor/DBRoleReqs (sgallagh, 15:35:24)
    2. http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.4/static/auth-methods.html#GSSAPI-AUTH rather (mitr, 15:48:01)
    3. ACTION: adamw to send email today about DB role use cases (sgallagh, 15:56:09)

  5. GSoC Involvement (sgallagh, 15:56:22)
    1. http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.4/static/auth-methods.html (danofsatx, 15:56:22)

Meeting ended at 16:03:02 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. adamw to send email today about DB role use cases

Action items, by person

  1. adamw
    1. adamw to send email today about DB role use cases

People present (lines said)

  1. sgallagh (120)
  2. adamw (55)
  3. nirik (20)
  4. mitr (13)
  5. simo (10)
  6. danofsatx (9)
  7. zodbot (5)
  8. jsmith (4)
  9. stefw (0)
  10. tuanta (0)
  11. mizmo (0)

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Fedora Server SIG Weekly Meeting (2015-02-24)



#fedora-meeting-1: Server SIG Weekly Meeting (2015-02-24)

Meeting started by sgallagh at 16:01:22 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. roll call (sgallagh, 16:01:22)
  2. Agenda (sgallagh, 16:05:00)
    1. Agenda Item: Fedora Server 22 Alpha Checkpoint (sgallagh, 16:05:16)
    2. Agenda Item: Fedora 22 QA Needs (sgallagh, 16:05:41)

  3. Fedora Server 22 Alpha Checkpoint (sgallagh, 16:07:04)
    1. The offending bug is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1195811 (sgallagh, 16:11:17)
    2. ACTION: simo and sgallagh to address Dogtag/FreeIPA dependency issue. (sgallagh, 16:13:26)
    3. The first pass at a Database Server Role has landed in rolekit and will be included in F22 Alpha TC5 later today. (sgallagh, 16:14:38)
    4. simo notes that making pki work with tomcat 8 may be difficult. (sgallagh, 16:15:36)
    5. http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/tomcat.git/commit/?id=53dd1361b3ab4535e39dae014a53eb7b56627f24 (mitr, 16:20:02)
    6. AGREED: If the Tomcat and Dogtag teams cannot settle this between themselves quickly, the Fedora Server SIG and WG will file a FESCo ticket asking them to vote on reverting Tomcat to version 7 for Fedora 22 so it can spend a stabilization cycle in Rawhide. (sgallagh, 16:31:58)

  4. Open Floor (sgallagh, 16:43:12)
    1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dmossor/DBRoleReqs (sgallagh, 16:44:06)
    2. We need to generate AppStream metadata for pgadmin3 to support the DB Role (sgallagh, 16:52:16)

Meeting ended at 16:54:13 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. simo and sgallagh to address Dogtag/FreeIPA dependency issue.

Action items, by person

  1. sgallagh
    1. simo and sgallagh to address Dogtag/FreeIPA dependency issue.
  2. simo
    1. simo and sgallagh to address Dogtag/FreeIPA dependency issue.

People present (lines said)

  1. sgallagh (84)
  2. simo (29)
  3. danofsatx (18)
  4. stefw (12)
  5. mitr (10)
  6. zodbot (9)
  7. nirik (5)
  8. tuanta (5)
  9. mizmo (2)
  10. adamw (0)

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Fedora Server SIG Weekly Meeting Minutes (2015-02-17)



#fedora-meeting-1: Server SIG Weekly Meeting (2015-02-17)

Meeting started by sgallagh at 16:04:58 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. roll call (sgallagh, 16:04:58)
  2. Agenda (sgallagh, 16:06:35)
    1. Agenda Item: Fedora 22 Alpha (sgallagh, 16:06:44)
    2. Agenda Item: Database Server Role (sgallagh, 16:06:48)
    3. Agenda Item: Cockpit Domain Controller Support (sgallagh, 16:06:48)

  3. Fedora 22 Alpha (sgallagh, 16:08:15)
    1. https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/server/2015-February/001734.html (sgallagh, 16:10:40)
    2. AGREED: Cockpit support of the Domain Controller Role is deferred to Fedora 23 (sgallagh, 16:21:29)
    3. ACTION: sgallagh, twoerner and danofsatx to work on finishing the DB role for Fedora 22 Alpha Freeze (sgallagh, 16:22:12)

  4. Database Server Role (sgallagh, 16:23:14)
    1. The Database Server Role will be open on all interfaces upon deployment, but can be constrained using port/service configuration in rolekit. (sgallagh, 16:46:46)
    2. It will also be configured to use password-based authentication (sgallagh, 16:47:04)

  5. Open Floor (sgallagh, 16:47:20)
    1. ACTION: danofsatx and junland to create database server role requirements document modeled on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Domain_controller_role_requirements (sgallagh, 16:51:43)
    2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_22_Alpha_Release_Criteria#Role_functional_requirements (and same URL for beta/final) (adamw, 16:55:02)

Meeting ended at 17:00:00 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. sgallagh, twoerner and danofsatx to work on finishing the DB role for Fedora 22 Alpha Freeze
  2. danofsatx and junland to create database server role requirements document modeled on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Domain_controller_role_requirements

Action items, by person

  1. danofsatx
    1. sgallagh, twoerner and danofsatx to work on finishing the DB role for Fedora 22 Alpha Freeze
    2. danofsatx and junland to create database server role requirements document modeled on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Domain_controller_role_requirements
  2. junland
    1. danofsatx and junland to create database server role requirements document modeled on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Domain_controller_role_requirements
  3. sgallagh
    1. sgallagh, twoerner and danofsatx to work on finishing the DB role for Fedora 22 Alpha Freeze
  4. twoerner
    1. sgallagh, twoerner and danofsatx to work on finishing the DB role for Fedora 22 Alpha Freeze

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  1. sgallagh (93)
  2. adamw (33)
  3. mitr (16)
  4. junland (14)
  5. nirik (12)
  6. twoerner (7)
  7. zodbot (5)
  8. stefw (0)
  9. danofsatx (0)
  10. tuanta (0)
  11. simo (0)
  12. mizmo (0)

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Server SIG Weekly Meeting Minutes (2014-01-27)



#fedora-meeting-1: Server SIG Weekly Meeting (2014-01-27)

Meeting started by sgallagh at 16:01:45 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. roll call (sgallagh, 16:01:51)
  2. Fedora 22 progress (sgallagh, 16:09:41)
    1. The anaconda team has added new hooks in Fedora 22, so we can simplify the branding needs as well as altering the defaults for things like partitioning. This is going to make it easier to generate the product-specific install media. (sgallagh, 16:11:33)
    2. I’ve got a proof-of-concept of the Database Server Role in progress on my github clone of the rolekit repo. It’s about 50% complete at this point. (sgallagh, 16:14:44)
    3. I’ve worked with the Cockpit upstream designer and we have a visual design ready for the Domain Controller support. However, I have nonexistent JavaScript skills and am looking for a volunteer to help with implementation. (sgallagh, 16:16:45)
    4. Anyone with some JavaScript skills and an interest in Fedora Server is invited to help with adding the Domain Controller Role to Cockpit. (sgallagh, 16:19:57)

  3. Open Floor (sgallagh, 16:26:52)
    1. ACTION: Corey84 volunteers for testing Server features. (sgallagh, 16:31:12)

Meeting ended at 16:35:14 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. Corey84 volunteers for testing Server features.

Action items, by person

  1. Corey84
    1. Corey84 volunteers for testing Server features.

People present (lines said)

  1. sgallagh (38)
  2. Corey84 (13)
  3. danofsatx (8)
  4. simo (6)
  5. zodbot (5)
  6. nirik (3)
  7. corey84– (3)
  8. jsmith (2)
  9. adamw (0)
  10. mitr (0)
  11. stefw (0)
  12. tuanta (0)
  13. mizmo (0)

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Server SIG Weekly Meeting Minutes (2015-01-13)



#fedora-meeting-1: Server SIG Weekly Meeting (2015-01-13)

Meeting started by nirik at 16:00:23 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. roll call (nirik, 16:00:24)
  2. Agenda (nirik, 16:03:36)
    1. Discuss pending F22 changes related to server (nirik, 16:05:41)

  3. Discuss pending F22 changes related to server (nirik, 16:07:57)
    1. AGREED: The server SIG feels that the ssh config proposal provides very minimal security improvement, and is not worth any reduction in usability; accepting this change would make sense only if all relevant UIs/tools were adapted to fully support system usage after this change. [Excluding the case that “changing anything is an unfixable reduction in usability”] (+6, +1, 0) (nirik, 16:53:41)

  4. Database role for f22 (nirik, 16:53:45)
    1. help wanted to code-review and test database role soon. (nirik, 17:02:14)
    2. AGREED: will not block on a management interface. Will look at working with pgadmin3 on workstation (+6,0,0) (nirik, 17:05:34)

  5. Open Floor (nirik, 17:06:09)

Meeting ended at 17:07:08 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. (none)

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  1. simo (95)
  2. nirik (70)
  3. sgallagh (69)
  4. mitr (36)
  5. junland_2 (24)
  6. danofsatx|w (20)
  7. adamw (19)
  8. zodbot (8)
  9. tuanta_ (5)
  10. junland (2)
  11. stefw (0)
  12. danofsatx (0)
  13. tuanta (0)
  14. mizmo (0)

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Fedora Server SIG Weekly Meeting Minutes (2015-01-06)



#fedora-meeting-1: Server SIG Weekly Meeting (2014-01-06)

Meeting started by sgallagh at 16:00:27 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. roll call (sgallagh, 16:00:27)
  2. Agenda (sgallagh, 16:03:21)
    1. Agenda Item: ARM Support (sgallagh, 16:03:21)
    2. Agenda Item: Database Server Role Design (sgallagh, 16:03:21)

  3. ARM Support (sgallagh, 16:05:18)
    1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/F21/Installation#For_Versatile_Express_Emulation_with_QEMU (pwhalen, 16:09:15)
    2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/F21/Installation#For_Versatile_Express_Emulation_with_QEMU (sgallagh, 16:09:25)
    3. Need to coordinate with Websites and Docs folks to have installation resources easily discoverable, ideally from the download page (sgallagh, 16:11:56)
    4. Better documentation on PXE deployment of ARM is important. May lead to the creation of an ARM Deployment Role to simplify the process. (sgallagh, 16:22:23)
    5. ACTION: sgallagh to try setting up an ARM qemu VM (sgallagh, 16:30:15)

  4. Website Team Update (sgallagh, 16:32:42)
    1. https://getfedora.org/en/server/ (sgallagh, 16:33:53)
    2. https://getfedora.org/en/server/download/ (sgallagh, 16:33:58)
    3. For F21 we stay the course re: netiso, for F22 we have a link on each of the flavor download pages to a common netiso image, which users will have to pick the correct flavor env group in anaconda or just ks (sgallagh, 16:51:05)
    4. sgallagh will keep mizmo in the loop re: if/when we add a DL link for arm image on getfedora.org/server (mizmo, 16:51:57)

  5. Open Floor (sgallagh, 16:55:25)
    1. Happy New Year, everyone! (sgallagh, 16:57:25)

Meeting ended at 16:58:13 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. sgallagh to try setting up an ARM qemu VM

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  1. sgallagh
    1. sgallagh to try setting up an ARM qemu VM

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  1. sgallagh (111)
  2. mizmo (69)
  3. pwhalen (23)
  4. zodbot (10)
  5. nirik (9)
  6. simo (3)
  7. mitr (2)
  8. stefw (1)
  9. tuanta (1)
  10. adamw (0)
  11. danofsatx|w (0)
  12. danofsatx (0)

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Server SIG Weekly Meeting (2014-12-16)

#fedora-meeting: Server SIG Weekly Meeting (2014-12-16)

 

 

#fedora-meeting: Server SIG Weekly Meeting (2014-12-16)

Meeting started by sgallagh at 16:02:57 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. roll call (sgallagh, 16:02:57)
  2. Agenda (sgallagh, 16:07:53)
    1. Agenda Item: Database Server Role Design (sgallagh, 16:08:04)
    2. adamw will work on a proposal for defining/documenting server role capabilities and requirements outside of the release criteria (sgallagh, 16:10:46)

     

  3. Database Server Role Design (sgallagh, 16:15:19)
    1. https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/server/2014-December/001694.html (sgallagh, 16:15:57)
    2. rolekit should support creating an admin account when creating the DB, but stay out of user management otherwise (sgallagh, 16:32:09)
    3. AGREED: The Database Server Role will be built with a single local process, with rolekit instances maintaining the databases within it. (lazy consensus) (sgallagh, 16:37:28)
    4. If we select a graphical tool for managing PostgreSQL, it must be able to manage user rights, replication and other system-level tasks (sgallagh, 16:43:54)
    5. A UI for SQL queries is a non-requirement (sgallagh, 16:44:04)
    6. Any UI we employ for the Database Server Role must be integrated with Cockpit in some reasonable way (sgallagh, 16:47:07)

     

  4. Cantas (sgallagh, 16:54:36)
    1. http://cantas-fedoraserver.rhcloud.com/ (danofsatx-work, 16:55:26)
    2. https://github.com/xychu/cantas ? (adamw, 16:56:15)
    3. https://github.com/onepiecejs/nodejs-cantas (sgallagh, 16:56:24)
    4. Cantas authentication does not integrate with fedoauth (yet) (danofsatx-work, 16:57:55)
    5. Current authentication is only through Google or Kerberos. (danofsatx-work, 16:59:04)
    6. Fedora Infrastructure does not support Kerberos (sgallagh, 16:59:21)

Meeting ended at 17:09:01 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. (none)

 

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  6. hanthana (8)
  7. mclasen (4)
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  9. mizmo (1)
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